
Macaca
07-08 09:14 PM
140K GCs are available on Oct 1. But, dates are not current. Based on this, there appears to be a law that prevents USCIS from recieving ALL AOSs. I am guessing that this law specifies a cap on AOSs that USCIS can recieve from lawyers. (This is why I am keen on knowing conditions for setting dates in VB)
The following argues that it is hard for this cap to reach exactly on the end of every month.
no it will not be voilation of the law at all. consider this scenario thats been going on for the last 30+ years. For example July 2006 visa bulletin for EB2 india was jan 2003 and the August 2006 visa bulletin for EB2 india was unavailable. EB2 india visa numbers might have already been used up when the August 2006 visa bulletin was released but they still accepted the AOS petitions filed until the end of July 2006, they did not issue an updated visa bulletin or a revised visa bulletin saying eb2 india numbers are used up and they will not accept eb2 india aos applications, they continued accpeting AOS applications until the end of july 2006.
It is impossible to believe that this cap was not violated in June when it is possible that USCIS got 200K-600K AOSs.
The following argues that it is hard for this cap to reach exactly on the end of every month.
no it will not be voilation of the law at all. consider this scenario thats been going on for the last 30+ years. For example July 2006 visa bulletin for EB2 india was jan 2003 and the August 2006 visa bulletin for EB2 india was unavailable. EB2 india visa numbers might have already been used up when the August 2006 visa bulletin was released but they still accepted the AOS petitions filed until the end of July 2006, they did not issue an updated visa bulletin or a revised visa bulletin saying eb2 india numbers are used up and they will not accept eb2 india aos applications, they continued accpeting AOS applications until the end of july 2006.
It is impossible to believe that this cap was not violated in June when it is possible that USCIS got 200K-600K AOSs.
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Macaca
07-08 09:49 PM
only 27% of the annual quota is released Oct 1
the first 3 quarters cannot use more than 27% each
that is the whole issue
on the first working day of the month/quarter, where were the remaining 19%
that should be available by law?
how can they allot them on sunday (july 1)? if so they must be willing to accept my application on sunday too...
This is a law violation and I have URL for it. In fact, the law also says that there is a 10% quota for each month.
As I have posted earlier there are other issues. Thus, this is another issue and not the whole issue.
Pursuing this issue and violations of name checking does not get us much. They can cancel some GCs issued but still not accept July AOSs.
We need to concentrate on issues that support accepting July AOSs.
the first 3 quarters cannot use more than 27% each
that is the whole issue
on the first working day of the month/quarter, where were the remaining 19%
that should be available by law?
how can they allot them on sunday (july 1)? if so they must be willing to accept my application on sunday too...
This is a law violation and I have URL for it. In fact, the law also says that there is a 10% quota for each month.
As I have posted earlier there are other issues. Thus, this is another issue and not the whole issue.
Pursuing this issue and violations of name checking does not get us much. They can cancel some GCs issued but still not accept July AOSs.
We need to concentrate on issues that support accepting July AOSs.

pa_arora
07-09 02:44 PM
One more...
Just a reminder..
Make and take some big posters (small with BOLD letters would help) with you...just the gathering wont help that much unless we have some big poster in hands. This would help if we are pictured by media.
Just a reminder..
Make and take some big posters (small with BOLD letters would help) with you...just the gathering wont help that much unless we have some big poster in hands. This would help if we are pictured by media.
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GCKaIntezar
05-23 12:29 PM
The point system has worked well in both Canada and New Zealand and have moved those who meet the threshold through the immigration system faster. As an non paying IV member, I am not in favor of opposing the current bill.
Where did you get this idea that IV is opposed to the point system? Any reference to the IV analysis or the core member response would be appreciated before you put such a claim.
We have identified our objectives clearly. Taking a position for the bill (in favor of or in opposition to) does not neccesarily mean that we want to kill this bill, but instead we like the congress to treat this community fairly and at parity with the undocumented immigrants and family-based applicants in the current Immigration Reform bill S. 1348.
Where did you get this idea that IV is opposed to the point system? Any reference to the IV analysis or the core member response would be appreciated before you put such a claim.
We have identified our objectives clearly. Taking a position for the bill (in favor of or in opposition to) does not neccesarily mean that we want to kill this bill, but instead we like the congress to treat this community fairly and at parity with the undocumented immigrants and family-based applicants in the current Immigration Reform bill S. 1348.
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gsc999
07-08 06:03 PM
I was working on DC but so far just received 30 votes..
Like I said I will talk to core members if only we have 1000 members who wants to do it in DC on July 14th.. So many members are online but they don't even want to take a poll.. I don't know what to expect from members..
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That is a good start. We had around 14 people on 07/07 demonstration but it was fun. Thirty is double that. I will keep you posted on what strategy we are following in Bay area. I will also request the Chinese member to post about the local event in DC once we finalize the logistics today evening.
Like I said I will talk to core members if only we have 1000 members who wants to do it in DC on July 14th.. So many members are online but they don't even want to take a poll.. I don't know what to expect from members..
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That is a good start. We had around 14 people on 07/07 demonstration but it was fun. Thirty is double that. I will keep you posted on what strategy we are following in Bay area. I will also request the Chinese member to post about the local event in DC once we finalize the logistics today evening.

simple1
05-05 02:57 AM
Agreed it is the state dept not uscis.
We should not mix the interpretation of eb2/3 visas with other immigrant visas including other eb due to perm.
Could Please ask the lawyer this following question about statedept eb2/3 visa allocation to non-perm derivatives ?
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* eb 2/3 generally require perm except for very rare cases. right ?
The employer petitions for 1 permanent-employee. With assurance that the 1 person doesn’t displace local workforce (existing citizen and gc). How come state department allocates additional visa (more than approved) to derivative(s) who is not "perm labor certified" from a quota/poll (eb2/3) that mandates labor market test like perm ? (while the actual qualification is fb2a)
* State department also burns the eb2/3 visa allocated for US-businesses to bring in much needed skilled eb2/3 labor ? while most real primaries wait, the visa gets allocated to non-productive derivatives ?
Is state dept making mistake ?
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I spoke with our attorney
He said
INA Sec 203 talks only about the eligibility to apply the I-485. But the visa number is derived from a relationship to Principal applicant of green card. This is true for all categories Including investor, asylum, Employment categories. Please note that It is Dept of State that is responsible for this allocation not USCIS.
We should not mix the interpretation of eb2/3 visas with other immigrant visas including other eb due to perm.
Could Please ask the lawyer this following question about statedept eb2/3 visa allocation to non-perm derivatives ?
--
* eb 2/3 generally require perm except for very rare cases. right ?
The employer petitions for 1 permanent-employee. With assurance that the 1 person doesn’t displace local workforce (existing citizen and gc). How come state department allocates additional visa (more than approved) to derivative(s) who is not "perm labor certified" from a quota/poll (eb2/3) that mandates labor market test like perm ? (while the actual qualification is fb2a)
* State department also burns the eb2/3 visa allocated for US-businesses to bring in much needed skilled eb2/3 labor ? while most real primaries wait, the visa gets allocated to non-productive derivatives ?
Is state dept making mistake ?
--
I spoke with our attorney
He said
INA Sec 203 talks only about the eligibility to apply the I-485. But the visa number is derived from a relationship to Principal applicant of green card. This is true for all categories Including investor, asylum, Employment categories. Please note that It is Dept of State that is responsible for this allocation not USCIS.
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mita
08-10 12:49 PM
My husband received CPO mail on 08/04, welcome mail on 08/05, soft LUD on 08/06 and approval notice sent mail on 08/09 but dated 08/08 in USCIS status. Hoping to have the GC in hand next week.
Anyone who has the same chain of events or received GC for CPO mail on 08/04 or later?
Anyone who has the same chain of events or received GC for CPO mail on 08/04 or later?
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ikass
11-17 09:12 PM
Done. Thanks. Sent emails to all my friends!
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go_guy123
02-02 10:33 AM
Love India, gave me the best time.
Came to US for higher education. Love USA.
Not yet in the GC mess, but if I want to stay here, I will have to get in. (Hoping that the problem will be solved by the time I apply :D )
Visited India and love the progress. The final act of moving to India is not always GC, money or lifestyle. It boils down to the family one has in India. Having been away from India for long, don't feel comfortable with relatives anymore. Recently lost my dad, who meant everything to me. Can't think of going back to a place where he is not there anymore!
Good luck to all who decide to go back to India and Good luck to all who decide to stay back in the US.
Those who have come from India (specifically India born) really need lots of luck , perhaps even a miracle, to prevent their GC boats from sinking.
Came to US for higher education. Love USA.
Not yet in the GC mess, but if I want to stay here, I will have to get in. (Hoping that the problem will be solved by the time I apply :D )
Visited India and love the progress. The final act of moving to India is not always GC, money or lifestyle. It boils down to the family one has in India. Having been away from India for long, don't feel comfortable with relatives anymore. Recently lost my dad, who meant everything to me. Can't think of going back to a place where he is not there anymore!
Good luck to all who decide to go back to India and Good luck to all who decide to stay back in the US.
Those who have come from India (specifically India born) really need lots of luck , perhaps even a miracle, to prevent their GC boats from sinking.
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jfortune
06-27 10:05 AM
The VP signed the letter and asked me to let him know when I get green card. He will throw a party to celebrate!
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mammoy2k
11-28 07:44 PM
I think attorneys scare us in using AC21 before I-140. If you have a good attroney she can argue and convince USCIS to approve AC21 before I-140 approval. There can be only 3 reasons of I-140 denial:
- Ability to Pay
- Education
- Experience
Now if you work for a public company, A2P is not an issue. If you have a US degree, or a 4 years degree from outside, educations should not be a concern, unless LC asks for BTech in Comp Sc and you have it in Civil Engg. Laslty on Exp letter, if the only experience you mentioned on LC is the experience for which you have exp letter, you are fine.
Does anyone see anything missing? Come Jan 08, I expect many AC21 with I-140 pending.
Mammoy2k
I was confident on this before, you have just made me super confident.
I have been saying all along that one can get a same/similar job after 180 days irrespective of the whether I-140 was approved or not. I don't know why some people / lawyers spread so much mis-information on this topic.
- Ability to Pay
- Education
- Experience
Now if you work for a public company, A2P is not an issue. If you have a US degree, or a 4 years degree from outside, educations should not be a concern, unless LC asks for BTech in Comp Sc and you have it in Civil Engg. Laslty on Exp letter, if the only experience you mentioned on LC is the experience for which you have exp letter, you are fine.
Does anyone see anything missing? Come Jan 08, I expect many AC21 with I-140 pending.
Mammoy2k
I was confident on this before, you have just made me super confident.
I have been saying all along that one can get a same/similar job after 180 days irrespective of the whether I-140 was approved or not. I don't know why some people / lawyers spread so much mis-information on this topic.
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sam2006
07-20 12:24 PM
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sledge_hammer
02-12 11:59 AM
D%ck weed, I came to this country with the intention of studying and then working, but to do so legally. I came to this country very well knowing that I have to maintain my legal status, regardless of the circumstances.
So to counter your sophomoric point - yes, it does not matter if you have spent your prime years working here, it does not matter if you have loans in India, it does not matter if your wife is on H4, it does not matter if your child is a US citizen, it does not matter if you did your masters here, it does not matter if you are from IIT, it does not matter if you're employed through a consultant, it does not matter if you're employed full-time with a "proper" company, it does not matter if your parents in India are sick and you need to send them money; THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS THAT YOU SHOULD BE MAINTAINING LEGAL IMMIGRATION STATUS BECAUSE YOU CAME TO THIS COUNTRY KNOWING THAT!
So stop complaining @ss wipe and go back and learn to spell and fix your grammar.
>>>>>>Do you have a brain?
>>>>>>So why the hell u came to the country
>>>>>>u ask them to go to their home country is it
Thinking in your native tongue and translating to another language is NOT a very effective way to communicate. And for god's sake, spell 'you' the way it is and don't short hand it to 'u'. That's the most annoying thing people like you do.
Do you have a brain? seriosly... .. I wish people like u suffer through what everyone else who has lost a job or in the bnech go through...
So why the hell u came to the country... i think u are one of those cheap ass off shore guys who is onsite and showing off.. man
dont come to me mouthing off again... i did my master's here and i got job in OPT and my company sponsored my H1. I have friedns who sufferd through the phase of not getting a job and had to go through the desi consultants.. they were in no way inferior to u or me.. plain bad luck.. u ask them to go to their home country is it... moron grow some brains
So to counter your sophomoric point - yes, it does not matter if you have spent your prime years working here, it does not matter if you have loans in India, it does not matter if your wife is on H4, it does not matter if your child is a US citizen, it does not matter if you did your masters here, it does not matter if you are from IIT, it does not matter if you're employed through a consultant, it does not matter if you're employed full-time with a "proper" company, it does not matter if your parents in India are sick and you need to send them money; THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS THAT YOU SHOULD BE MAINTAINING LEGAL IMMIGRATION STATUS BECAUSE YOU CAME TO THIS COUNTRY KNOWING THAT!
So stop complaining @ss wipe and go back and learn to spell and fix your grammar.
>>>>>>Do you have a brain?
>>>>>>So why the hell u came to the country
>>>>>>u ask them to go to their home country is it
Thinking in your native tongue and translating to another language is NOT a very effective way to communicate. And for god's sake, spell 'you' the way it is and don't short hand it to 'u'. That's the most annoying thing people like you do.
Do you have a brain? seriosly... .. I wish people like u suffer through what everyone else who has lost a job or in the bnech go through...
So why the hell u came to the country... i think u are one of those cheap ass off shore guys who is onsite and showing off.. man
dont come to me mouthing off again... i did my master's here and i got job in OPT and my company sponsored my H1. I have friedns who sufferd through the phase of not getting a job and had to go through the desi consultants.. they were in no way inferior to u or me.. plain bad luck.. u ask them to go to their home country is it... moron grow some brains
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deepak
08-31 02:32 PM
USCIS should seperate North Indians and South Indians - We are soooo very different anyways ..... Different language - different look - different food ..... That way all of us North Indians will get our GC sooner :D
Awesome!! Do you mind if fair South Indians join in with you? USCIS should also make a definite decision on where the boundary between north and south India are drawn. That way Maharashtrians who are thought to be North Indians by people from Kerala and thought to be south Indians by people from Punjab, will finally know if they will get their GC in time. Hey, since USCIS is going to use stereotypes anyway, how about we base the EB category, based on our stereotypical knowledge of relative intelligence between the "races"?
As the person before me said, get well soon, and thanks for the entertainment :)
Awesome!! Do you mind if fair South Indians join in with you? USCIS should also make a definite decision on where the boundary between north and south India are drawn. That way Maharashtrians who are thought to be North Indians by people from Kerala and thought to be south Indians by people from Punjab, will finally know if they will get their GC in time. Hey, since USCIS is going to use stereotypes anyway, how about we base the EB category, based on our stereotypical knowledge of relative intelligence between the "races"?
As the person before me said, get well soon, and thanks for the entertainment :)
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geevikram
07-20 09:40 PM
Problem was ours (EB2 & EB3) and we fought together until EB2&EB3 dates were retrogressed.Now the problem is only for EB3s so EB3s only have to come forward and work for ourselves. Thank you Sir...
No, you are twisting what I said. My point is, if you are not willing to help yourself, why do you expect people who are going to be current in a year or so to chip in? You can start helping yourself by becoming a regular donor to IV. That's $25 a month. Imagine 11,000 odd EB people becoming regular donors. Maybe, IV can then run a regular ad in major news network, explaining our plight.
What I am saying is we(EB2&3) will fight together and you are saying that It's your problem and you(EB3) have to work for yourself.So do we have to start a new community called eb3immigrationvoice?
I never said EB3 will have to fight it alone. All I said is, 90% of EB3 folks stuck in the rot of backlog want someone else to take the lead and do it.
Again, please do not twist what I said. I rest my case.
No, you are twisting what I said. My point is, if you are not willing to help yourself, why do you expect people who are going to be current in a year or so to chip in? You can start helping yourself by becoming a regular donor to IV. That's $25 a month. Imagine 11,000 odd EB people becoming regular donors. Maybe, IV can then run a regular ad in major news network, explaining our plight.
What I am saying is we(EB2&3) will fight together and you are saying that It's your problem and you(EB3) have to work for yourself.So do we have to start a new community called eb3immigrationvoice?
I never said EB3 will have to fight it alone. All I said is, 90% of EB3 folks stuck in the rot of backlog want someone else to take the lead and do it.
Again, please do not twist what I said. I rest my case.
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zeta7
04-14 12:56 AM
- Flew into YYZ (with family), completed landing process last week
- Have expired H1-B stamp but approved I-797s
- Flew back this week on AVR
- No questions asked on both sides
- Stayed in Canada for a week. Its an amazing country with mix of good points from Europe (relaxed life, warm people ...) and USA (cleanliness, immigrant friendly ...) and a stable economy (atleast this far...). Overall, liked Canada alot
- Some people say, "its sheer luck", but many friends have done this without any problem. I would say "its sheer bad-luck" if anyone got into trouble doing this
- I would not suggest giving up the Canadian PR based on just rumors and no facts
- Have pending 140 and 485
- Have APs too, but did not use them
Thanks for posting your experience. Did you apply for your SIN and your PR card? Do you (or anyone else) have any info on how that's done or what the procedure is?
- Have expired H1-B stamp but approved I-797s
- Flew back this week on AVR
- No questions asked on both sides
- Stayed in Canada for a week. Its an amazing country with mix of good points from Europe (relaxed life, warm people ...) and USA (cleanliness, immigrant friendly ...) and a stable economy (atleast this far...). Overall, liked Canada alot
- Some people say, "its sheer luck", but many friends have done this without any problem. I would say "its sheer bad-luck" if anyone got into trouble doing this
- I would not suggest giving up the Canadian PR based on just rumors and no facts
- Have pending 140 and 485
- Have APs too, but did not use them
Thanks for posting your experience. Did you apply for your SIN and your PR card? Do you (or anyone else) have any info on how that's done or what the procedure is?
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english_august
07-09 04:59 PM
here's a writeup for reporters.
You might want to use the well formatted documents on this thread
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6248
They incorporate most of your arguments here.
You might want to use the well formatted documents on this thread
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6248
They incorporate most of your arguments here.
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helpme1234
09-18 07:44 AM
My appl recvd at NSC on July 3 at 11:14 am by f heuifner anyone on the same boat
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fundo14
05-30 09:56 AM
Will I need passport size photos at the time of landing (like for applying PR or any other form) and if required how many photos are required.
Hi Maag,
I don't think you need the photos for lannding.
As per my research this i the list of documents you need:
� Passport
� COPR
� Proof of Funds
� Few copies of a list stating inventory you wish to take to Canada in the future, list of "Goods to Follow" and when landing in Canada. Include Model Numbers and Serial Numbers of products if they have such numbers.
Good to have:
Birth Certificate.
� Marriage Certificate.
� Driver's License.
� International Drivers License
I am planning to do landing this weekend of early next week..just lilttle worried as i have already used AP so not ure what sort of situtation I will face while landing.
Do you know of anyone in such situation or any experiance?
Thanks
Hi Maag,
I don't think you need the photos for lannding.
As per my research this i the list of documents you need:
� Passport
� COPR
� Proof of Funds
� Few copies of a list stating inventory you wish to take to Canada in the future, list of "Goods to Follow" and when landing in Canada. Include Model Numbers and Serial Numbers of products if they have such numbers.
Good to have:
Birth Certificate.
� Marriage Certificate.
� Driver's License.
� International Drivers License
I am planning to do landing this weekend of early next week..just lilttle worried as i have already used AP so not ure what sort of situtation I will face while landing.
Do you know of anyone in such situation or any experiance?
Thanks
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07-02 08:49 AM
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shakunbansal
09-20 08:53 PM
Anybody with case filed on aug9th with NSC recieved any notice??
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